Subject	The e-manage leaves a lot to be desired... >>
Posted by	AshsZ on January 07, 2004 at 4:50 PM
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In Reply To	Jason, it is all in teh tuning! The best case would be posted by George(boost-solutions.com) on January 07, 2004 at 04:20 PM
Message	Since it is piggybacking the ECU and achieving result by modifying engine sensor output before it gets to the ECU (just like the AFC), it does not have seperate timing and fuel control. It also suffers once you change the boost level so you can't optimally tune it for more than just one boost level. The trickery it uses to manipulate the ECU also makes the tuning process much more time consuming; something you dont want on a $100+/hr dyno.. Just some thoughts... [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast?
Follow Ups	"Another one bites the dust (Boost Solutions)"- the real - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:16:35 01/07/04 How's the 1000HP evo coming along? - AshsZ 15:24:16 01/07/04 about as well as his Z, Supra,and his trying to import a GTR - Halo Z 15:25:56 01/07/04 Like I said come by for a ride :-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:27:50 01/07/04 man all 3 of you guys sure love to bitch.. (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 15:36:24 01/07/04 buy a Z van boy, or STFU. (n/m) - Halo Z 16:47:35 01/07/04 1hr. and 11mins. and thats the best you could come up with? - MaxBoostTT 17:23:08 01/07/04 Hmm.. Why did you jump in on this to start? - AshsZ 17:29:02 01/07/04 Funny, I could ask you the same thing... - Greg (Dallas) 17:31:30 01/07/04 ditto (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:50:32 01/07/04 the latter.. I felt left out =) - MaxBoostTT 17:39:07 01/07/04 also.. - MaxBoostTT 17:47:06 01/07/04 I have an inbox full of emails from people who mostly lurk, - AshsZ 18:31:15 01/07/04 some of us work and don't live in the parents basement. (n/m) - Halo Z 18:03:27 01/07/04 I work (technically)... - MaxBoostTT 18:17:44 01/07/04 don't remember the skyline thying.. - Halo Z 05:48:28 01/08/04 The exhaust would not clear Z1s chickenfarm road, - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:26:51 01/07/04 Wow, you're just going off on everyone today, eh? LOL (n/m) - AshsZ 15:33:02 01/07/04 sound familiar Ash? (n/m) - Zeus 15:35:03 01/07/04 there have been moments. =) (n/m) - AshsZ 15:55:19 01/07/04 lol...understatement of the year =) (n/m) - Zeus 15:56:13 01/07/04 A tow truck can carry a car down a dirt road can't it? (n/m) - kryptonite729 15:42:55 01/07/04 Kyle, please call me so we can get all the balances taken - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:45:51 01/07/04 my Z made it several times, but then again ash did rub some - Wagz 16:07:52 01/07/04 I have Tein Flexes and a 5" exhaust. Not gonna clear - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:17:08 01/07/04 I have about the same in clearence... No issue with scrubing - John@Z1 16:34:49 01/07/04 John, you are cool, I was talking to Ash:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:47:02 01/07/04 5" ? (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 17:18:36 01/07/04 Peacemaker has 2.5" piping and making 762RWHP right now - AshsZ 17:27:20 01/07/04 That is all cool, but if you go to a 3" twin exhaust, you - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:35:21 01/07/04 Yes, 5"( five inches) OD... (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:28:55 01/07/04 Isnt exhaust measured in ID like electrical pipe? - Stealth021 18:43:09 01/07/04 So which muffler shop sells 5" pipe, dude? My setup is - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:54:32 01/07/04 I already said, a diesel muffler shop. - Stealth021 00:40:45 01/08/04 ooof.. remember that.. :-/ (n/m) - AshsZ 16:17:35 01/07/04 haha... Didn't you rub the front end of your car a little? (n/m) - JonnyZ (DC) 16:23:51 01/07/04 Bah! Rely on its rally car heritage, lol. (n/m) - SooperZ95 16:41:47 01/07/04 Mine is not a rally car! (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:47:59 01/07/04 lol (n/m) - hoss 16:51:09 01/07/04 Hey, Road Race advertises there. Coolio! (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:47:30 01/07/04 Not cool of you to stir shit with another vendor. (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 23:20:22 01/07/04 your "sig" is still too big (n/m) - Zeus 15:25:09 01/07/04 sorry, I was busy replying. It is - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:29:40 01/07/04 cool....good luck clearing this up (n/m) - Zeus 15:31:44 01/07/04 Thank You. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 15:47:52 01/07/04 In the imortal words of Stan Marsh... - BigTDogg (MA) 15:33:14 01/07/04 C: "Towelie, you're the lamest character ever." T: "I know." - hoss 15:41:19 01/07/04 "Wait a minute, that's it" "You remembered the combination?" - BigTDogg (MA) 15:43:52 01/07/04 You'll like this then..... - RAGTPZ(OH) 15:53:15 01/07/04 i have no idea whats going on right now (n/m) - THAyz1 16:40:55 01/07/04 your keyboard sucks. (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:35:50 01/07/04 that or he has fat fingers.. (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 15:37:32 01/07/04 Ok, George its my turn... George plz refund my $200 - kryptonite729 15:41:30 01/07/04 Email. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 15:45:48 01/07/04 I tried, thanks for your $.02 Kenny - kryptonite729 15:48:06 01/07/04 Please drama queens - stop already. - Kenny 14 psi 15:58:12 01/07/04 *golf clap* (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 16:02:24 01/07/04 I hate to say it Kyle. But Kenny does have a point. - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 16:02:09 01/07/04 damn ya'll really like to air dirty laundry.. (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 15:47:24 01/07/04 Kyle, - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:56:16 01/07/04 "Business is business, friends are friends." - MaxBoostTT 16:01:21 01/07/04 I agree, I should not have been so nice to Kyle:-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:04:27 01/07/04 i warned kevin about him. and lots of stories of him (n/m) - Halo Z 16:38:01 01/07/04 Halo, you are still pissed that I pulled my car from Mike's? (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:12:33 01/07/04 i do recall. mike told you to come and get your POS motor. - Halo Z 18:07:56 01/07/04 I showed up at Mike's and picked it up! Again you are - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:23:11 01/07/04 i'll ask mike today when i see him, i'll show him this post - Halo Z 05:51:30 01/08/04 e-mail not working... - Agent X 15:43:00 01/07/04 george@boostsolutionsinc.net (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:58:24 01/07/04 "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" - Agent X 18:16:58 01/07/04 What is your cell again? - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:25:01 01/07/04 Sorry, I'm at work. - Agent X 18:35:31 01/07/04 Re: "Another one bites the dust (Boost Solutions)"- the real - bosco500@adelphia.net 15:43:07 01/07/04 No battle, I am just stating the facts, and copying - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:01:07 01/07/04 Despite the lack of spellcheck, thats one customer - nixit 15:52:08 01/07/04 yup...sound advice (n/m) - Zeus 15:54:07 01/07/04 Nixit, thanks for teh advice! - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:03:17 01/07/04 Hey George ECU Questions???? - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 16:12:03 01/07/04 Jason, it is all in teh tuning! The best case would be - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:20:16 01/07/04 I agree with the E-manage or Super AFC BUT.... - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 16:26:51 01/07/04 I can dyno tune your car, and you will not need any new - Chip(GMS Racing) 16:33:09 01/07/04 We're always looking for more to tune. :) (n/m) - AshsZ 16:53:34 01/07/04 The e-manage leaves a lot to be desired... >> - AshsZ 16:50:13 01/07/04 :-) Probably you do not know that he can use a pressure - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:11:01 01/07/04 Why not just tie right into the ECU and modify the fuel - AshsZ 17:13:52 01/07/04 Damn, thats a good point. - Stealth021 17:23:57 01/07/04 If Jason is in GA, we would tune his car:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:27:57 01/07/04 Come again. How will E-manage help him then?!?! - Stealth021 17:36:05 01/07/04 2nd - kryptonite729 17:37:21 01/07/04 You will get your bill in the mail:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:48:17 01/07/04 e-manage is NOT crap - fourZero 17:43:58 01/07/04 John, he is just trying to be smart:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:49:33 01/07/04 Smarter than you is all I need to be. - Stealth021 17:55:00 01/07/04 Uh - how do you dynotune with no programmable hardware? (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 22:33:30 01/07/04 Ash does it. - Stealth021 00:43:03 01/08/04 The Zem is programmable hardware. - Kenny 14 psi 01:24:48 01/08/04 How about a question for you. - Stealth021 17:57:55 01/07/04 Boy, you know a lot about nothing. :( - Spongerider :) 18:09:30 01/07/04 I would more precisely call it a unit that leaves a lot - AshsZ 18:06:43 01/07/04 Eric, how is he gonna dyno tune without any hardware? - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:46:12 01/07/04 Maybe you need the explaining done George. - Stealth021 17:49:19 01/07/04 Eric, if you grow up and listen, you will hear that the - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:12:58 01/07/04 e-manage is still confined to 2-dimensional changes.. - AshsZ 18:43:41 01/07/04 By the way, dont you "Custom Burn" chips and sell them? - Stealth021 17:51:15 01/07/04 Yes, we do that all the time, but ALL I am saying is - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:21:03 01/07/04 So how does E-manage help? - Stealth021 18:37:41 01/07/04 Why will Ash hate you? - Stealth021 18:41:24 01/07/04 Do you think JWT hates Ash for copying his code? (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:01:02 01/07/04 Ash did not copy JWT's code. - Stealth021 19:03:32 01/07/04 So you answered your own question then... (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:13:21 01/07/04 So you ARE stealing Ash's idea. Thats all you are good for - Stealth021 19:28:27 01/07/04 Its funny how you make it sound like the only reason I - AshsZ 19:29:42 01/07/04 And, to note, George is hinting that he is copying the Zem. - Stealth021 19:35:25 01/07/04 We are not gonna waste tiem with a Zem.... - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:00:19 01/07/04 He doesn't need it. When we tune a car, I use the ZEM, - AshsZ 19:02:57 01/07/04 So are you getting a Z1 Ashpec chip, or a Zemulator? (n/m) - SactoTodd 17:36:27 01/07/04 Not being wise, but does it matter? - Stealth021 17:41:12 01/07/04 Correct on the ZEM.. It has a lot of other features too.. (n/m) - AshsZ 18:14:50 01/07/04 LOL.. you amaze me - fourZero 17:41:10 01/07/04 Ash's bandwagon left about a year ago, please pay attention. - Stealth021 17:46:29 01/07/04 Well, Jason is not here, but in VA. So whatever you fine - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:26:16 01/07/04 I'm sorry, are you just pulling reasons out of thin air - AshsZ 17:51:09 01/07/04 Again, Ash wins, and with proof. - Stealth021 18:03:01 01/07/04 Hi Ash why don't you install an E-Manage one time before you - Carlos Ramirez 21:06:09 01/07/04 Thanks Carlos! (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 22:40:25 01/07/04 You'll definately want more than just an AFC. - SooperZ95 16:48:20 01/07/04 He has a JWT already, he needs better fuel and timing - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:13:40 01/07/04 You, the retailer, needs to convey that to the customer - SactoTodd 16:14:59 01/07/04 :-) The whole think started when we got the Stillen stuff - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:26:10 01/07/04 Damn george i just read that.... Seems like ur pretty pissed - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 16:22:33 01/07/04 Yeah, u know how it is:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:44:28 01/07/04 Always at least 2 sides to a story. Takes a lot of time and - zxjpmzx 17:03:53 01/07/04 You lost all credibility as a tuner/builder when you mention - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:52:34 01/07/04 Thank God! - Stealth021 18:59:45 01/07/04 Mike, that happens if you do drastic changes... - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:07:25 01/07/04 Re: Mike, that happens if you do drastic changes... - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 19:15:45 01/07/04 Mike, you are not posting your own personal experience, but - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:53:33 01/07/04 I don't need personal experience to know the difference - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 20:24:17 01/07/04 Mike, I agree with all that, but there are man people that - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:59:59 01/07/04 NOW you say its for stage 3-5 cars. - Stealth021 19:27:04 01/07/04 vote to ban (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:12:18 01/07/04 Just stop giving advice, and we wont have to go through this - Stealth021 20:22:41 01/07/04 Whne did we tune your car? Never! I do not even know you. - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:30:28 01/07/04 Re: You lost all credibility as a tuner/builder when you mention - kuah@splparts.com 20:23:07 01/07/04 Fianlly somebody with EXPERTISE chimes in. Thank you! (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:28:34 01/07/04 There are a lot of hi hp cars running carburators too - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 00:57:34 01/08/04 Re: There are a lot of hi hp cars running carburators too - kuah@splparts.com 09:49:34 01/08/04 with Piggy back , you are still beholden to the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 00:02:41 01/09/04 Wow, since I joined tt.net I have NEVER seen vendors dire - Iced Z 19:52:19 01/07/04 2nd>>>>>>>>>>> - zboost 20:00:08 01/07/04 whatever happened to LOTM? - aliaZ 21:09:51 01/07/04 yeah, IL needs to bring that back in a big way. (n/m) - Spee 21:12:32 01/07/04 "SPEEDLAB SUCKS!" - ahhh, when we could all agree on somthng (n/m) - NAZTTy 21:36:07 01/07/04
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